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		<title>By: debris</title>
		<link>http://blog.lividinstruments.com/2009/10/29/thats-a-good-question/comment-page-1/#comment-3211</link>
		<dc:creator>debris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 16:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will be purchasing later... this is new territory for an old hand... I play real instruments... you know... things you have to actually learn/practice for thousands of hours/best to start at a very early age... that kind of thing... DJs frankly, make me puke (just being honest... hey, my daughter and her husband are DJs... old school.. turntables etc... I still love them!) ;-) ... BUT ... nowadays, things have changed (i.e. - in the last 10 years) and I see something new emerging.. and I am excited... very excited. Livid is the type of company that is providing what is needed to propel creative, imaginative endeavor... soon, self-satisfied wankers with a couple of easy-to-use computer apps and limited/zero musical chops and a few hours of time spent learning it all will be going the way of the dodo... and real talent can re-take the stage, now occupied by egocentric wankers... purchasing the soon-to-be obsolete, cheap, made in china product is OK for anyone other than someone in for the long haul... Livid is for artists and pros, obviously.. if that is your aspiration, then this should be a consideration... buying a 100$ Korean acoustic guitar is also a possibility for a guitarist... but my hand made Larivee costs over 6000$... and there is a difference... one that will be noted by my great-great-grandchildren after I am long gone... quality needs to be supported... it&#039;s good for the individual.. it&#039;s good for the society in general... it&#039;s good for the future... (stepping off the soapbox now... ) peace and love to you all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will be purchasing later&#8230; this is new territory for an old hand&#8230; I play real instruments&#8230; you know&#8230; things you have to actually learn/practice for thousands of hours/best to start at a very early age&#8230; that kind of thing&#8230; DJs frankly, make me puke (just being honest&#8230; hey, my daughter and her husband are DJs&#8230; old school.. turntables etc&#8230; I still love them!) <img src='http://blog.lividinstruments.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230; BUT &#8230; nowadays, things have changed (i.e. &#8211; in the last 10 years) and I see something new emerging.. and I am excited&#8230; very excited. Livid is the type of company that is providing what is needed to propel creative, imaginative endeavor&#8230; soon, self-satisfied wankers with a couple of easy-to-use computer apps and limited/zero musical chops and a few hours of time spent learning it all will be going the way of the dodo&#8230; and real talent can re-take the stage, now occupied by egocentric wankers&#8230; purchasing the soon-to-be obsolete, cheap, made in china product is OK for anyone other than someone in for the long haul&#8230; Livid is for artists and pros, obviously.. if that is your aspiration, then this should be a consideration&#8230; buying a 100$ Korean acoustic guitar is also a possibility for a guitarist&#8230; but my hand made Larivee costs over 6000$&#8230; and there is a difference&#8230; one that will be noted by my great-great-grandchildren after I am long gone&#8230; quality needs to be supported&#8230; it&#8217;s good for the individual.. it&#8217;s good for the society in general&#8230; it&#8217;s good for the future&#8230; (stepping off the soapbox now&#8230; ) peace and love to you all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DJNSM</title>
		<link>http://blog.lividinstruments.com/2009/10/29/thats-a-good-question/comment-page-1/#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>DJNSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have APC40+Launchpad+MPD24+OHM64+Livid-Brain+MPK49+MIDIFighter+MIDIAtor+LightStrib DUO+some other crap that slips my mind - so here&#039;s some $0.02:

OHM64 = higher performance and less lag (I am rather sensitive to lag). Custom mapping is a base need for my set period!  The editor and assignments are not perfect yet. I had a lot of problems, but after 100+ hours I am starting to see the performance I wanted all along. It was a struggle to get the OHM64 mapped to my very high standards but worth it in the end 101%.

APC series = MIDI hog - 10 channels in use (yes 10).  No reassignment of notes (eliminates much of what I do), poor poor quality (that x-fader is an Alpha $3 retail sliding 10k pot), lots of wasted space and some other fatal flaws when you finally graduate to pro. A great bet for the beginner - a required step to the more advanced controllers.

Akai owned by same company as Alesis - a huge brand NO-NO!

Launchpad = If you think APC quality is low you should see how Novation builds. I have documented physical engineering flaws that would make your jaw drop - they don&#039;t care either. Just like Alesis when I called up the Alesis dev team I ended up having them admit a feature in the instruction manual that was not on the unit (really). Novation Automap is a nightmare (borderline virus). The lag introduced using Automap is so bad I can&#039;t play using custom mappings.  

Having been a dealer for these companies and having contacts in the music industry I can tell you from first hand experience that Livid is a company worth doing business with - I am very happy with my O64 despite some near tragic issues out of the gate.

Keep up the good work guys, quality, attention to detail, and maintaining a good community is what it is all about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have APC40+Launchpad+MPD24+OHM64+Livid-Brain+MPK49+MIDIFighter+MIDIAtor+LightStrib DUO+some other crap that slips my mind &#8211; so here&#8217;s some $0.02:</p>
<p>OHM64 = higher performance and less lag (I am rather sensitive to lag). Custom mapping is a base need for my set period!  The editor and assignments are not perfect yet. I had a lot of problems, but after 100+ hours I am starting to see the performance I wanted all along. It was a struggle to get the OHM64 mapped to my very high standards but worth it in the end 101%.</p>
<p>APC series = MIDI hog &#8211; 10 channels in use (yes 10).  No reassignment of notes (eliminates much of what I do), poor poor quality (that x-fader is an Alpha $3 retail sliding 10k pot), lots of wasted space and some other fatal flaws when you finally graduate to pro. A great bet for the beginner &#8211; a required step to the more advanced controllers.</p>
<p>Akai owned by same company as Alesis &#8211; a huge brand NO-NO!</p>
<p>Launchpad = If you think APC quality is low you should see how Novation builds. I have documented physical engineering flaws that would make your jaw drop &#8211; they don&#8217;t care either. Just like Alesis when I called up the Alesis dev team I ended up having them admit a feature in the instruction manual that was not on the unit (really). Novation Automap is a nightmare (borderline virus). The lag introduced using Automap is so bad I can&#8217;t play using custom mappings.  </p>
<p>Having been a dealer for these companies and having contacts in the music industry I can tell you from first hand experience that Livid is a company worth doing business with &#8211; I am very happy with my O64 despite some near tragic issues out of the gate.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work guys, quality, attention to detail, and maintaining a good community is what it is all about!</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Stiles</title>
		<link>http://blog.lividinstruments.com/2009/10/29/thats-a-good-question/comment-page-1/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Stiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got my Ohm64 last week, am currently on tour with it (http://tinyurl.com/yfnd44o), and am *thrilled* with this instrument.  Before buying the Ohm I played around with an APC40 and here is what I’d say to someone looking at both devices:

If you’re an exclusive Ableton user who is specifically interested in the features the APC40 provides out of the box, then the APC40 is probably an excellent product for you.  If, on the other hand, you are interested in doing pretty much *anything else* with your device – anything other than clip launching and effects/device twiddling in Ableton (i.e. playing your own software built in Max/MSP, performing VJ software, controlling soft synths, doing lighting control, driving a robotic fire-breathing sculpture, etc.) – I believe the Ohm64 is a far superior device with a much more open-ended design.

The 5x8 button grid on the APC40 (or 7x9 or 7x9x3x8, depending on how you look at it) doesn’t make any sense for musical/visual instrument control compared to the 8x8 grid on the Ohm.  If you’re making your own software tools in Max or similar platforms, the mathematical sensibility of an 8x8 matrix is very elegant.  Similarly, the Ohm64 can be re-programmed to output sensible MIDI messages that will save a lot of time programming/mapping, whereas the APC40 is hard-mapped to output messages that probably don’t make sense outside of Live.

Some points outside the realm of software:

I did like the faders and knobs on the APC40, but the buttons on the Ohm64 beat the pants off the APC40 buttons (in my own humble opinion).  The faders and knobs on the Ohm64 are also really solid and great-feeling.  

The Ohm64 is bus-powered whereas the APC40 requires an external power supply.  This might seem like a small point, but I find that a minor convenience like that will mean I end up using a device a lot more.  And when you’re on stage having one less power supply to plug in is a godsend.

The Ohm64 is has a friggin wood body.  And it’s hand-made by a small company that is deeply invested in the arts.  I already feel sentimentally attached to this device in a way that I just can’t with my factory-assembled made-in-China gear.  Maybe I’m just sentimental.

That being said, the APC40 is a very cool device and the out-of-the-box functionality in Ableton is great.  The $200 price difference is probably not small potatoes either, especially to students.  I’ve been in the game for a long time so for me the extra $200 was not much at all when taking the long view.

Happy twiddling,
Jesse

http://jts3k.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got my Ohm64 last week, am currently on tour with it (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yfnd44o" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yfnd44o</a>), and am *thrilled* with this instrument.  Before buying the Ohm I played around with an APC40 and here is what I’d say to someone looking at both devices:</p>
<p>If you’re an exclusive Ableton user who is specifically interested in the features the APC40 provides out of the box, then the APC40 is probably an excellent product for you.  If, on the other hand, you are interested in doing pretty much *anything else* with your device – anything other than clip launching and effects/device twiddling in Ableton (i.e. playing your own software built in Max/MSP, performing VJ software, controlling soft synths, doing lighting control, driving a robotic fire-breathing sculpture, etc.) – I believe the Ohm64 is a far superior device with a much more open-ended design.</p>
<p>The 5&#215;8 button grid on the APC40 (or 7&#215;9 or 7x9x3x8, depending on how you look at it) doesn’t make any sense for musical/visual instrument control compared to the 8&#215;8 grid on the Ohm.  If you’re making your own software tools in Max or similar platforms, the mathematical sensibility of an 8&#215;8 matrix is very elegant.  Similarly, the Ohm64 can be re-programmed to output sensible MIDI messages that will save a lot of time programming/mapping, whereas the APC40 is hard-mapped to output messages that probably don’t make sense outside of Live.</p>
<p>Some points outside the realm of software:</p>
<p>I did like the faders and knobs on the APC40, but the buttons on the Ohm64 beat the pants off the APC40 buttons (in my own humble opinion).  The faders and knobs on the Ohm64 are also really solid and great-feeling.  </p>
<p>The Ohm64 is bus-powered whereas the APC40 requires an external power supply.  This might seem like a small point, but I find that a minor convenience like that will mean I end up using a device a lot more.  And when you’re on stage having one less power supply to plug in is a godsend.</p>
<p>The Ohm64 is has a friggin wood body.  And it’s hand-made by a small company that is deeply invested in the arts.  I already feel sentimentally attached to this device in a way that I just can’t with my factory-assembled made-in-China gear.  Maybe I’m just sentimental.</p>
<p>That being said, the APC40 is a very cool device and the out-of-the-box functionality in Ableton is great.  The $200 price difference is probably not small potatoes either, especially to students.  I’ve been in the game for a long time so for me the extra $200 was not much at all when taking the long view.</p>
<p>Happy twiddling,<br />
Jesse</p>
<p><a href="http://jts3k.com" rel="nofollow">http://jts3k.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: uptownboogiedown &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Livid Explains Why You Should Buy An Ohm64 Instead Of An APC40 Or A Novation Launchpad</title>
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		<dc:creator>uptownboogiedown &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Livid Explains Why You Should Buy An Ohm64 Instead Of An APC40 Or A Novation Launchpad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Livid Explains Why You Should Buy An Ohm64 Instead Of An APC40 Or A Novation Launchpad &#124; Music Production Info</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livid Explains Why You Should Buy An Ohm64 Instead Of An APC40 Or A Novation Launchpad &#124; Music Production Info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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